I think he has an outlook on how he sees things and how things will develop. We call him the idea man. He always has so many ideas he's throwing around. He wants to be successful, and he wants that for the kids of Winona.
He talked about Jim Devine all the time ... and I knew Pat had such respect for him. In the back of my mind, I knew we were moving. I knew if Jim made him an offer, we'd take it. I thought this would be a big key to Pat's success.
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